Oh, I seriously doubt she'll object, but I'll ask her anyway. Although I'm sure she'd appreciate some sort of credit or something. :)
Ok, this is going to be a sort of long and random tangent, and I don't mean to be disparaging or attacking you at all, so I apologize if it come across that way, but it's just something that occurred to be a while ago. I got into icon-making way before I got into photography, and I would scour GettyImages or random pretty-image sites, and then make icons out of photos, and then ask for credit if people used my icons and put a generic sort of, "Got these from Getty!" thing at the bottom.
But then one day, I found the original photo on Flickr that was used for one of the icons I was using. This was after I had gotten into photography, where individual credit is (at least among many of the amateur photographers I follow, as well as myself) a big deal. It made me feel weird because I had given credit for the icon to the icon-maker, yet not to the person who had actually taken the picture. It was strange because I remember in my graphics-making days, listing the general websites where I got certain icon images – and I'd certainly never seen any icon-maker list individually each of the URLs where they had found the images. And that was fine, that was all that was expected.
But since then, after finding various photos that I had taken (or people I knew had taken), posted on the internet and with hundreds or thousands of Tumblr notes and not a single bit of credit, I feel differently, I think. Obviously TV/movies is different, but general pretty images found online is what I'm mostly talking about. I imagine myself finding an icon made of a photo that I took, used on an icon for a super popular icon community or something, and people using it, but never knowing that I was the one who took it – or even having a way to find out, if they'd wanted to. And it's just out there. I know several photographers who don't care about credit but I know many more who do, because their photography is very personal and they invest a lot of time and money and energy into it so they like to see credit where it is due. They aren't famous or recognizable outside of certain circles.
So I guess the whole gist of this is something to the effect of, "I know it's an overwhelming norm to just list the general websites of found images, but in the future if you make and post icons, I personally think (and this is just one opinion, here) that it would be pretty groovy to save those URLs and post them with the associated images." I really hope that didn't come across as... pushy and aggressive or something, but it's 4am, so I apologize if it does!
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Date: 2011-04-21 07:50 am (UTC)Ok, this is going to be a sort of long and random tangent, and I don't mean to be disparaging or attacking you at all, so I apologize if it come across that way, but it's just something that occurred to be a while ago. I got into icon-making way before I got into photography, and I would scour GettyImages or random pretty-image sites, and then make icons out of photos, and then ask for credit if people used my icons and put a generic sort of, "Got these from Getty!" thing at the bottom.
But then one day, I found the original photo on Flickr that was used for one of the icons I was using. This was after I had gotten into photography, where individual credit is (at least among many of the amateur photographers I follow, as well as myself) a big deal. It made me feel weird because I had given credit for the icon to the icon-maker, yet not to the person who had actually taken the picture. It was strange because I remember in my graphics-making days, listing the general websites where I got certain icon images – and I'd certainly never seen any icon-maker list individually each of the URLs where they had found the images. And that was fine, that was all that was expected.
But since then, after finding various photos that I had taken (or people I knew had taken), posted on the internet and with hundreds or thousands of Tumblr notes and not a single bit of credit, I feel differently, I think. Obviously TV/movies is different, but general pretty images found online is what I'm mostly talking about. I imagine myself finding an icon made of a photo that I took, used on an icon for a super popular icon community or something, and people using it, but never knowing that I was the one who took it – or even having a way to find out, if they'd wanted to. And it's just out there. I know several photographers who don't care about credit but I know many more who do, because their photography is very personal and they invest a lot of time and money and energy into it so they like to see credit where it is due. They aren't famous or recognizable outside of certain circles.
So I guess the whole gist of this is something to the effect of, "I know it's an overwhelming norm to just list the general websites of found images, but in the future if you make and post icons, I personally think (and this is just one opinion, here) that it would be pretty groovy to save those URLs and post them with the associated images." I really hope that didn't come across as... pushy and aggressive or something, but it's 4am, so I apologize if it does!